Perry Belcher – The Arrest of an Internet Marketer
What can one say about Internet marketer Perry Belcher’s arrest? I take no joy in it — and it certainly could have been prevented at many stages in his career. There are some who may become angry that it is being discussed in public (particularly marketers who have done business with him) but it needs to be analyzed in the context of ethics, the law, and Internet marketing in general.
Who is Perry Belcher? A look at Perry’s Linked-in profile will give you some idea of his prior successes online. From what I can tell, he’s a very talented individual who made some poor choices.
Perry has been charged with computer fraud, imitation of a licensed professional, and deceptive business practices. This was the result of an investigation by federal, state, and local government agencies. You can read about it in the press release issued by the sheriff’s department after his arrest.
Sadly, there are many Internet marketers pushing the envelope with conduct as illegal as what Perry is alleged to have done (remember that an arrest alone doesn’t mean he’s guilty).
Shady small-time operators think they’ll fly under the radar and won’t get caught. Many act out of desperation when their online businesses aren’t making any/enough money.
Large marketers listen to their egos and believe they’re invincible because they’re better at screwing people over than those who do get busted.
If you have a friend who has crossed the line with their Internet marketing practices, share the story of Perry Belcher with them. Maybe you’ll get them to stop in time before they get caught. Don’t accuse your friend of wrongdoing. Just pass along the story and let them draw their own conclusions.
If you’ve ever dealt with Perry, please post a comment here describing what happened (good or bad).
03/08/09 update – Tenn. auctions off fortune amassed by Internet scam artist
08/30/09 update - Perry Belcher plead guilty. You can download his criminal records at this link.
About the Author
With an advanced international law degree from Georgetown University and more than 15 years of real world legal experience, Attorney Mike Young is President of the Internet Ethics Council and creator of Website Legal Forms Generator software. He helps entrepreneurs protect and grow their businesses online.
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He’s currently running ads on Facebook–I see it every day.
I really need the Fungrx for pets he was selling anyone know if that exact formula is being made or sold by some other company? I have heard from a few that it actually worked.
Site directs me to another brand but has to be tha same stuff. thanks
Perry Belcher is back with [content deleted because it was spam for Belcher's latest product]
It looks like Ryan’s involvment with Perry have effected his business practices. This week I purchased a $30 package from the two of them. That evening I was called by the outbound call center at Ryan’s office. I’m a cancer patient and unfortunetly my maximum insurance coverage has been hit. I’m too rich for help, but I’m basically spending all of my money at this point to stay a live.
Anyway they have $5000 coaching program they wanted me to buy. My sites make about $10,000 per month so they must have thought they had a live one on the hooks coz I was immediately sent to a closer. I explained my situation to the sales guy, Calvin. That yeah I have $10,000 a month but cancer is a pretty expensive proposition and if I don’t continue to to pay I’m going to not get treated and then I’ll die. He asked me to wait a minute. He came back a few minutes later and said that they could go as low as $2000 for me. That I seemed like a real action taker and they would hate for me to miss this opportunity. I said I cant spend $2000, my god damn medical bills are running over $8000 a month and I have to keep them paid, it’s not an optional thing.
This guy literally then told me to think of investing the $2000 as investing in living. I was so stunned I pretty much remember word for word what he said. He said well just think of all the extra money you could make if you would make this investment in yourself. I’d hate for you to get sicker and not have made the money. Just like you said, if you can’t pay then you will die. Well, what happens if you get more sick and you can’t work. You’ll die. If you just invest this $2000 with Perry your business will almost certainly go to the next level and you can have the security of knowing that you are provided for….Now I know that Perry likes his magic cures, but it seems like that’s a lot even for him.
I’m very tempted to call the Department of Consumer Protection, the authorities in Texas, my local authorities in Iowa and the last 10 minutes of the sales call, which I recorded, to the Shelby County Police Department who seems to be the arresting department with Perry.
I understand selling, even aggressive selling and it does not offend me. I’ve done this since 1998, I know how the game is played. But, for the first time in my life I really feel like someone really crossed a line with me. I mean this was pretty much on par with people taking the last penny from little old ladies.
I used to have a lot of respect for Ryan, but it does seem like being affiliated with Perry is having an effect on his practices and that’s too bad because he has good products. Good products or not though, it does not make up for the criminal behavior of the outbond call out center in the call to me.
I’ve asked for a refund on all of the products I have bought from them (They say you have 60 days) and not heard anything back in 3 days. I suppose that should not be a surprise given how they seem to really feel about the customer.
Brandon,
Thanks for sharing your experience. Sorry you had to endure it. Your life is too important to waste on this type of nonsense.
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
-Mike
I want to give an update on the post I wrote above.
It was I think on Wednesday that I got the call from the call out center on the mentoring. I thought about it all week, and then on Saturday, with nothing else to do, I started to get very upset about the whole deal and started to dig around on the web for information about both Ryan Deiss and Perry Belcher.
This was one of the first site’s I came across, and so of course I did more research on the web. Obviously with the information that is on the web it was pretty easy for me to jump to a conclussion about a Mr. Belcher, and so I took the leap and then I posted my experience here.
In the mean time I had also written to the customer support center for Ryan and Perry’s company. Most of the big names in Internet Marketing are pretty slow to get back to you with any concern, if they do at all.
This did not end up being the case with Ryan and Perry though. On Sunday night I got a very long and detailed apology letter from Ryan. He also asked that I call him on the private line he gives to close family and friends so that he could find out what had happened and take action.
By Monday morning Ryan and Perry had terminated the contract they had with the call out center. They also offered to let me enroll in the mentoring program that the call out center had tried to sell me at no cost. I did not take them up on this because I’m still fighting anemia. I’ve also given coaching packages before and know the amount of work that it takes, so I felt slightly guilty about taking so much for something that was an obvious mistake.
Having had the chance to personally talk to Ryan and Perry did totally change my opinion of them. As I said it was very obvious that they felt terrible about what had happened, and moved very quickly to correct the situation in every way they could.
I’d also like to note that no one is “making me” write this and I am writting because I think I made a terrible mistake in judging a person based upon the information I found on the net, not based upon talking to the person himself.
Brandon Fredrickson
Brandon,
Thank you for the update. I’m glad that Messrs. Deiss and Belcher did the right thing in your matter.
To repeat a point that has been missed by those (not you) who’ve flamed me for posting about Belcher’s arrest, etc., the posts were
never an attack on Belcher. The purpose was to bring to the attention of online marketers the type of behavior that attracts unwanted government scrutiny so that such conduct can be avoided when selling goods and services online.
Best wishes,
-Mike
That was what I got out of your posts here as well Mike. I’ve looked over your site and found a lot of info that could prove very helpful. From 1998 until late 2005 I had a pretty substantial business on the net, but when I was diagnosed with cancer just 3 months after I got divorced so with so many things hitting me at one time I kind of did a “where in the world is Carmine San Diego” thing and dropped off the face of the earth for awhile.
Anyway I was obviously very upset when I wrote this, and I think with reason to be upset. Like I said my plan was going to be to get ahold of the Police in Memphis and let everyone on the net know what had happened to me. I do think they did everything they could to make it right though.I also did the “trust but varify” thing by calling the call out center on Tuesday to see if I could talk to someone about the coaching program and they said that they are no longer working with Ryan and Perry’s company.
Anyway I won’t take up any more of anybodies time. I’m glad to have found your site Mike, as it has a lot of good info on it.
Brandon
Sounds like some people here are on a witch hunt.
One guy questioned Ryan about his Christian faith.
To him I ask… “Did you bear false witness against your neighbor???” and “If you are without sin… then cast the First Stone”!
Don’t jump to the conclusion Until you have ALL the Facts.
On another note… I found this site because I just bought a product from Perry and I wanted to find out more about him , because I never heard of him until other day.
I don’t know Perry or Ryan… but just the other day the purchased Perry’s Google course $27 bucks.
After watching a video and listening to some audio’s I can tell you that there is a lot of GOOD info there.
I am thinking of getting his “Wholesale Course”
Update on this story:
Wanted: computer fraud victims
Monday, December 29, 2008
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/dec/29/wanted-computer-fraud-victims/
Tom,
If I understood that article, it’s basically to compensate those affected by this using only whatever they got from Perry except those already dealt with. Unfortunately it won’t stop some people from thinking Perry’s a bad guy to burn at the stake.
Not that it won’t stop Perry from learning from this experience and making sure he doesn’t cause “harm” when marketing again, whatever “harm” means to some people.
According to the news, Perry Belcher plead GUILTY to those criminal charges. Now, that’s an ADMISSION OF GUILT. He probably didn’t find himself dragged out of his home in handcuffs by accident.
He was lucky enough to afford a very slick attorney (someone mentioned it was the same attorney who got murderer Mary Winkler a very cushy sentence also). Belcher received a 10 year suspended sentence. Which likely means if he crosses the line in the future, he could still end up serving that 10 year sentence.
From the news report link above:
“Belcher, 44, pleaded guilty in September to computer crimes over $60,000 for selling bogus health products on the Web alleged to be useful in treating a variety of ailments. He was given a 10-year suspended sentence and agreed to forfeit some $1 million in assets, including bank accounts, cars, motorcycles and other property.”
Goes to show you need to be careful who you choose for a role model. Unless you like wearing handcuffs.
Wow i was just searching on the product GET MONEY FROM GOOGLE that was made by him is this product also one of his scams? If so i am disappointed. all i want to do is make money online i don’t understand why people want to sell lies to people. Its a Ressession and people like me are just looking for ways to make money the legal way without having to leave home. Man this is Crazy!!!
-Ashley
Ashley,
Can’t comment on the quality of the product because I haven’t tested it. I’m sure that those who have could weigh in on the subject.
-Mike
hey ashley did you find some online sh__ that is not a scam? i was searching for the same thing and i was just browsing get money from google.. i thought it was true. does google know about this then? good thing i thought of reading peoples blogs first. and all comments there are positive except for this one link that led here (thank God) . are those people who comented that perry was like a god fake too? theres alot who even says they love him and wanting to purchace a fan shirt. what d hel was that? im so confused.
I’m sure google has to know about it but i don’t think they would let him promote a product with there name on it if it was a fraud. Just alot to thinking about. Its hard trying to make money online, so many people ready to steall it.
thanks mike i learned a lot although im new to all this stuff. not the internet i mean all the other sh– going around. i dint know he has an office at manila.. sorry dont laugh at me guys i dont know the terms. but thank you for all the info .now i can share them to friends who doesnt have any clue bout this kind of things. some doesnt have any idea about internet marketing. now i can warn people whos planing to get involve with this stuffs..
“Ashley” actually said:
“I’m sure google has to know about it but i don’t think they would let him promote a product with there name on it…”
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Do people really think like this? That Google knows everything and they don’t care if you use their trademark any way you want? Wow!
Please. He’s using their trademark in a domain name. That’s just one cease and desist letter away (or worse, if ignored).
He’s just enjoying riding their trademarked coattails for the moment until they notice. Check that domain name again in a year and see if it doesn’t say, “page not found.”
“Get Money From Google” is NOT about having Google GIVE you money, as some might expect given the name.
Rather, it is about how to get traffic (web site visitors) as cheap as possible. Of course, then it is up to you to sell those visitors something. So this is by no means a slam dunk way to make money on the internet. Far from it.
This is also not for “newbies” in my opinion. (Because as stated, it is not a full “turnkey” system but simply information about one specific aspect of selling online.) It’s reasonably good information I would say.
Giving this a listen, it’s clear that Perry has a ton of real experience, and knows his stuff. He’s also very street smart and a real thinker. He appears to be working hard to get back on his feet after his setback. He may just do it if he stays focused and concentrates on delivering real value. I gather from watching a couple of his web site video promos that he has picked up on this principle, because he specifically refers to a new mantra of “giving value.”
If you purchase this product, keep in mind that you are also signing up for a continuity program, for which you will be billed some amount each month until you cancel. I believe this gives you access to a membership site with additional content.
If you are NOT a complete newbie, and need traffic advice, this would be a reasonable purchase.
I came here while researching about Perry Belcher, because he is being promoted as a guest at http://********.com. I wonder how with the questionable background they chose to have Perry on the panel, which includes some internet heavyweights.
Vikram et al.
The bloke plead “guilty” and was convicted and placed on a promise not to do anyhting crooked for 10 years (else into jail he goes).
The man knows his stuff as far as I can make out, and so why not let him help others make some money with an internet based business?
If the 10 year suspended sentence isn’t a good enough incentive to play a straight game then I have no idea what you people really want.
Have you heard of the concept of “rehabilitation”?
Anyway most of the folks posting here are losers with nothing better to do than ***** and whine about how **** their lives are so they feel better about themselves beating up on other people.
Belcher has plead guilty, publicly apologised on the internet on Youtube and promised to lead a better life.
What do you want.. blood?
Go and get lives people.
Rick,
Thanks for the clarification.
I saw Perry’s name for the first time on the tweetathon website. His Bio (Neurological Copywriter With a Gift From God) caught my attention, and I googled him. This was one of the top sites.
I was merely curious about the man and his background, not going on a witch hunt. Yes, people do make mistakes and reform for the better, but trust and faith once lost is not re-instated overnight.
Look at Steve Pavlina, he went from being a convicted shoplifter to somebody who now walks the talk about creating change and value for society. It has taken him *years* to earn public trust.
If Perry now demonstrates a high standard of ethics through his products and action, I would certainly want to listen to him and his ideas.
– Vikram
If the 10 year suspended sentence isn’t a good enough incentive to play a straight game then I have no idea what you people really want.
I prefer playing a “straight game” because it is the right thing to do.
I’d like to think that’s why Belcher is doing it now…not just to avoid jail.
Time will tell.
Will say that I’m very impressed with the rehabilitation PR that’s been done and the heavyweights behind it. Can think of a few big firms on Wall Street that could learn a lesson or two from what he’s accomplished on that front in less than a year.
-Mike
Hi folks,
Just thought I would give my 2 cents on the subject. I am brand new to internet marketing and actually purchased Perry’s “Get Money From Google” course for a whopping $7 (after a $20 discount). Without a doubt he could have sold that for a minimum of $47 by itself. There are a couple of unadvertised bonuses that would have sent the price point for the product to $97.
Let me make one thing absolutely clear: I am in no way affiliated with Perry Belcher or do I gain from giving him a positive review. I have also taken a look at a couple of his blogs and to tell you the truth they give alot of content.
In my personal experience I have received an incredible amount of value for the money that I have spent with him.
John
Mike, thanks for this info. Probably worthy of a follow up. It’s amazing that he’s still in a very similar business. Reform to me means a 180, not a slight deviation in path.
I gather that Ryan Deiss is supporting/funding Perry Belcher’s current ventures. There are several web sites that have Perry Belcher’s words and voice on them, but instead show Ryan Deiss’s business address.
For example, I have noted that he sells audio/ebook courses on how to operate an ice cream truck business and also how to operate a hot dog stand. Interestingly, some of the copy is nearly the same in places. In each case, it implies that he is the authority/expert of that particular type of business. It would almost seem he is an expert in many things, maybe.
Then I see above where someone (perhaps a former colleague) stated that he really had no experience in the hot dog cart business and he just put together an informational product for it while sitting in his office.
Is this really any different from the cheap generic ebooks written by the “medical researchers?”
To me, a big part of credibility comes from the background of the person who represents a book or product. Apparently Mr. Belcher knows this well also, and that is why he markets in this way.
I looked around on google for these two business markets (ice cream truck and hot dog cart business) and see there were already some existing instructional materials available. Perhaps his technique is simply to mimic such existing businesses, spring from their existing ideas, and then outmarket them? I will not judge this aspect although I am sure some would, but the aspect of claiming to be an expert seems quite uncomfortable to me. I could not do it myself.
After reading the many comments here and considering all this, it seems somewhat doubtful he will change for the long term.
We should always be careful of those whose advice we follow.
Otherwise, you may end up just like the age-old story of the Frog and the Scorpion
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I didn’t know about Perry’s background and legal trouble before I bought Get Money From Google and subsequently listened to other material he had. Due to the high quality of the Get Money From Google product and the transparency and accessibility with which Perry currently conducts business I find it shocking.
However, the only reason I knew anything about it was because he talks about it in one of the training webinars I attended with him. I can’t comment on that because I had no dealings with selmedica. He made some mistakes and he is not trying to hide that, he is actually very open about it.
Regarding my experience with Perry Belcher and Ryan Deiss – I would recommend these guys’ internet marketing products to anyone who wants to get started in the business. Regardless of what may or may not have happened in the past ( I know some people will flame me for this) I would gladly buy from Perry again in a heartbeat.
This is a guy that’s very accessible. He’s not hiding from anyone. When you buy from him you have full access to his PERSONAL email address, twitter, facebook etc…If you need to get a hold of him or need extra help, he is there to help you personally. He actually does care about his customers and he wants them to be successful. His products are extremely reasonably priced (underpriced). The Get Money from Google program is an absolute steal at $27. I’ve never been so impressed with an internet marketing product and no, I am not personally affiliated with them at all. Nor do I promote their products because it’s just not the business I am in.
As far as people not getting paid because his assets were frozen (from what I heard the feds seized everything he owned) well, what can I say? It’s unfortunate, but move on. If a two week paycheck is going to keep you in perpetual hatred and stall your life out then you are a sorry individual.
Perry has admitted that he didn’t go through the proper channels and from what I can tell, he operates with the utmost integrity. All I’ve heard is what’s in the news and from disgruntled employees, both of which are likely to have some spin and/or personal agenda attached to it. He made a mistake – a big mistake – but he seems to have moved on. You all should as well.
“Patrick” you must be Perry’s publicist. What a load of hot air you just spewed.
You said: “As far as people not getting paid…It’s unfortunate, but move on…If a two week paycheck is going to keep you in perpetual hatred and stall your life out then you are a sorry individual.”
What a pompous, totally OFF BASE comment. Even as a bystander, I still feel for those employees and customers who described their experiences above. They have EVERY RIGHT to make a statement. They were wronged.
This is obviously NOT just about a “2 week paycheck.” It is about a DUBIOUS business and unscrupulous business practices. If the business had been run in an honest and legitimate fasion, this article would not even EXIST. And those employees and customers would not have any reason to be upset. But since they certainly do have reason, Perry, like anyone convicted of a crime, has to take it on the chin. He chose that outcome by his own actions.
How long was Perry Belcher in business? How many years did he operate the way he did? Given that, do you think there might have even been other things he did that could have been prosecuted, but were not? One thing you can be sure of is that he did not go downhill overnight. He was prosecuted for MULTIPLE reasons. This means that by that time, he had developed a thick skin, some serious bad habits, and the conscience to live with whatever it took to make his money.
THAT is the mindset behind the guru you pretend to adulate.
As far as Perry Belcher’s current visibility, selling methods, and “products,” none of these things justify an instant erasure of what so recently transpired. Only time and future performance will ease that, and certainly not erase it.
It’s a given that he’d try to make a comeback, but the big question is: can you change a long-established, questionable mindset in just a matter of months? Ask a counselor or therapist what they think if your first reaction is, “sure, no problem.”
The intelligent observer will watch and wait, and not immediately drink the kool-aid of someone so recently arrested in the very same field in which they seek “advice” and “wisdom.”
I purchased make money with google from Perry Melcher. I have not started using it, as I am still learning the process. I believe that if a persoson understands the process & applies it, that person can make money. Bob Frances
Bob, thanks for the commercial for a product you have never used. I have a slightly different belief than you. I believe that in some cases, if a person understands a process and DOESN’T apply it, they can potentially steer clear of the law.
This was one amazing justice file story. I watched a video of Perry talking about social marketing.He was very likable and the video was free as well as informative. I searched his name to find the blog and was shocked to see the criminal stories. I read almost every post and went to many sites in order to sort this out.
To begin I did medical research on a personal level for arthritis, psoriasis and autoimmune disorders. My endeavors were succesfull and I actually healed arthritis, cured a case of hep C and psoriasis as well as growing back hair. This doesn’t make me a doctor and I learned the causes of many illnesses can be from multiple sources hence the dissatisfied customers.
This next statement is neither in defense of or against Perry. The FDA is not easy to deal with. There are laws that regulate non pharmaceutical drugs and you have to play by the rules. Secondly during my research I learned things about the FDA that makes killers on death row look innocent. You need to have an insiders look at this part of the situation an ex employee.
Payments and salary. Before the assets were frozen the affiliates were never paid, insurances canceled and employees not paid. Some people can’t understand why we, as an employee who just put in 80 hours would be upset not having any money. The bills still have to get paid and yes it would be nice to buy food.
MAybe he has learned his lesson and repented for his sins but one things for certain no one who knows his past may ever again have any faith or trust in this person unless it was all a wrong doing on the part of the state. That may be a small part of the picture.
I just heard about this tonight. Very interesting and informative!
Perry Belcher’s seized property was recently auctioned by the government:
http://www.419legal.org/blog/2009/03/09/perry-belcher-mr-internet-scam-artists-ownership-sold-at-auction/
Belcher seizure auction article from newspaper:
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/mar/07/bunko-02/
TV News report on Perry Belcher seizure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBsS2BbkmlY
Did Perry Belcher really just make a little “slip up” as he claims? Or was he really an out-and-out scammer?
Looks like someone has done some good research which appears to strongly contradict Perry Belcher’s “version” of events leading up to his arrest:
http://saltydroid.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/the-selmedica-scam-part-1/
There’s more on that site if you’re curious, but that article says plenty.
Appreciate all the feedback on the Belcher matter posted (pro and con). People can now make an informed decision whether or not to do business with him in the future.
Equally important, it is a warning of what not to do (unless you’re wanting a criminal record too).
Perry Belcher is now a so-called “Twitter expert.” Yeah, right.
He seems to have gathered a large number of Twitter “followers” in a short period of time. Of course, we all know that Perry comes from a mass-market mentality, where everything is a numbers game, and individual interaction gets in the way of big money. So my educated guess is that he’s just using a “mass follow” script to acquire his followers–his stats lean in that direction. That would just be another page from the past…”gaming the system.” Not impressed!
It also looks like he received some award for “social media accomplishment” which was then quickly retracted when the Austin newspaper discovered his recent run-in with the law:
http://www.statesman.com/hp/content/news/stories/local/02/21/0221ednote.html
Here’s a fairly meaty list of Perry Belcher articles for anyone interested:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=perry+belcher+scam&aq=f&oq=
Is Perry related to Aricash or Austinresearch?
Aricash not paying affiliates too, some of my
friends were not paid as much as $8,000
affiliate commissions.
This company should be closed!
Is anyone here been scammed by Aricash or
Austinresearch?
John,
Not familiar with the company.
However, according to the Maryland Department of Assessments and Taxation, Austin Research Institute, Inc.’s resident agent is GREGORY E. HAINES and has its principal office located at
1211 WYNSIDE LANE
HAMPSTEAD, MD 21074
Best wishes,
-Mike
I can tell you that i know perry and consider him a friend.
there are always 2 sides to any story, and the media gets paid for creating excitement. consider the well known media maxim “if it bleeds, it leads”. unless you have had a chance to meet perry and hear his side of how it all shook out i would ask you to consider that maybe everything you read or hear on the news just might not be true.
perry is a great guy, smart as a whip, and very humble.
my 2 cents
Perry Belcher plead GUILTY to numerous crimes, plain and simple. Now, he wants to “rewrite the truth” and make it look like he was “railroaded” when in fact that was NOT the case. Perry KNOWINGLY broke the law because he was GREEDY and has no moral compass.
Here’s proof. Take a look at this web page:
http://saltydroid.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/the-selmedica-scam-part-1/
In that analysis, it shows that Perry Belcher marketed many, many very DIFFERENT BOGUS “MEDICINES” using the EXACT SAME PHONEY STATISTICAL CLAIMS. In other words, he made up outright LIES and was so lazy he used the SAME LIES for many DIFFERENT bogus medicines.
Belcher PRAYED ON THE SICK. That’s just cold and heartless. There is NO EXCUSE for that kind of cold blooded behavior, period. What if someone in your family was one of the people who put all their faith and hope in his bogus medicine?
Anybody who would defend a convicted criminal like Perry Belcher has only two possible motives: either they are a “look the other way” friend/family member, or they are latching onto him to make a buck.
Nobody in their right mind could study all the above, read the numerous articles, and not see PLAIN AS DAY that Perry Belcher’s conviction was 100% justified. He is now a duly convicted felon and in fact has fully ADMITTED to his crimes. There is no doubt whatsoever.
Perry Belcher is currently serving 10 YEARS PROBATION. That’s a long time to not get greedy again and do what comes so naturally…
Perry is currently promoting a new “money making machine” on http://www.#####.com/ and is obviously selling a 27 $ E-Book-Collection which seems very attractive – at first …
Come on FYI not “FOR YOUR INFORMATION” IT MEANS “**** YOU *****” YOUR ALWAYS DEFENSE ON HIM how much he give you salary, are you the family of perry, haahahahaa don’t change the topic, the topic here he’s selling a fake products and internet fraud.
To the_truth _behind _the_booth
Please be civil. No need to be vulgar to make your point. Thank you for your anticipated cooperation.
-Mike